Episode #181: From Erectile Dysfunction to Girth Enhancement: Solutions from Dr. Paul Gittens, Sexual Medicine Expert

INTRODUCTION:

In this episode of the 'Sex, Drugs, and Jesus' podcast, host De’Vannon engages in a detailed discussion with Dr. Paul Gittens, a urologist and sexual health expert. The conversation covers various topics related to sexual medicine, including fertility, erectile dysfunction, and innovations in male enhancement procedures. Dr. Gittens explains his approach to patient care, emphasizing the importance of a holistic and compassionate perspective. The episode also explores the role of masturbation in sexual health, commenting on a recent statement by Jimmy Kimmel, and delves into the physical and psychological aspects of erectile dysfunction. Both host and guest stress the complementarity of medical and spiritual approaches to sexual health. The discussion is rounded off with a light-hearted segment of dad jokes.

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INCLUDED IN THIS EPISODE (But not limited to):

·      Sexual Health Medicine.

·      Our Take on Jimmy Kimmel’s HuffPost Article.

·      Penile Girth Enhancement.

·      Self Image Implications.

·      The Whole Person Concept.

·      The Convergence of Science and Religion.

·      Masturbation vs. Marriage.

·      Positive/Negative Use of Sexual Energy.

·      Train Your Children Early About Sex.

·      Erectile Dysfunction as a Leading Indicator. 

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Transcript

Episode #181: From Erectile Dysfunction to Girth Enhancement: Solutions from Dr. Paul Gittens , Sexual Medicine Expert

De'Vannon Seráphino: [00:00:00] Hello, hello, hello, you wonderful world out there, and welcome back to the Sex, Drugs, and Jesus podcast. How are you today? I hope that you're doing really, really fantastic. I have with me today the good, the good Dr. Paul Gittens, and well y'all, we're going to be talking about a lot of sexual things today, sexual medicine.

De'Vannon Seráphino: For men and women fertility, erectile dysfunction, just, just a lot, a lot of things to do with sexual health. Dr. Dr. Gittens, how are you today? 

Dr. Paul Gittens: I'm doing great, De'Vannon, and thank you so much for having me on the show. It's Friday. I've been waiting all week for this. So I'm excited to be here. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: Yes, it is.

De'Vannon Seráphino: This is a great way to round out the week talking about sex. That's right. To go right into the weekend, right? Yeah, people have that thing with On their mind. They'd be like, it's Friday. I'm gonna get laid or whatever the case may be. People, [00:01:00] the stress begins to relieve if they're married, then maybe they'll actually take their significant other out and do something romantic because they don't have the burden of, of the week and everything like that to, to, to hinder them in their mind.

De'Vannon Seráphino: So. I suppose I'd do that. You know, I'm a diehard romantic. I'm gonna get married one day. I'll invite you to the, I'll invite you to the, it's really won't be a wedding. It's going to be a kiki really because it's just going to be a whole Sagittarius level turn up. And 

Dr. Paul Gittens: there you go. I can wear my like Hawaiian shirt or something like that.

Dr. Paul Gittens: And send in like a grass skirt. Just have a good time. Let's just have you a good ass time, period. Well, make sure I'm going to hold you to it. Don't let me you know, watch the podcast and say you're, you're married and you didn't invite me. That's not cool. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: It'll be years after that, that man or woman or, or trans or whatever.

De'Vannon Seráphino: It'll be years because [00:02:00] You know, I say all that. I've been saying all this stuff. I'm not gonna do when it comes to dating. And then there I am at the club, you know, 

Dr. Paul Gittens: I mean, that's how it happens. It's one of those things where you say, like, I've signed off to it. And then somebody just comes and hits you right on the head, you know, and that's how it always happens there.

Dr. Paul Gittens: Go back in love again, child. That's right. That's right. It's those all those, all those receptors, all those dopamine highs and everything like that. It's great. It's a, it's a good, it's a good place to be in. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: I'm ready. I've been like in isolation pretty much the last two years. I divorced a covert narcissist two years ago.

De'Vannon Seráphino: That's what led me to New York. Well, the Holy Ghost led me to New York, but it was that that led to all the mental breakdowns and stuff like that, and I went into closed off. From sexuality and everything. No dating, no sex, no nothing. But, but the spirit is now calling me out of that because she wants me more accessible.

De'Vannon Seráphino: So it's time for me to get out there and start doing some mixing and some minglings. [00:03:00]

Dr. Paul Gittens: Yeah, I mean, I think it's important. I mean, you know, sometimes you go through a breakup and you just have to kind of get to know yourself again. You know, it's start to kind of have a mental break and just to kind of meditate and And then you move forward and then like you said, like whoever's calling you, they called you, you're coming out and you're ready to go.

De'Vannon Seráphino: Yeah, I'm ready. I am ready. And so, get ready, New York. I'm gonna be seeing a lot more of me here shortly. 

Dr. Paul Gittens: You gotta wait till it gets a little warmer. It's a little cold out there right now. Yeah, I was, I was there yesterday and I think it was like 16 degrees or something like that. So, you know, or you just make sure you wear a warm coat.

Dr. Paul Gittens: All right. Cause I don't want to see you on the streets, you know, you know, freezing in a corner or something like that. Make sure you're wearing something warm out there. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: Well, the first thing about being a New Yorker is you must not be afraid to layer. That's right. And so try, I try to go places that have a coat check.

De'Vannon Seráphino: So no matter how many layers I come on, I can just take them off, give them money. [00:04:00] And because when you go in there, the temperature is going to be set on hell. So it's nine degrees outside, but it's 90 degrees anywhere you go. That's right. That's right. That's right. You got to do your homework. Like a routine, getting dressed to leave, then when you get to the club or whatever, they got to take it all off and it's a whole thing.

De'Vannon Seráphino: That's right. That's right. So, okay, let me, okay, I'm gonna read Dr. Gitten's, introduction because it is so, like, well written. He does so much just so you can get his expertise and frame of reference. And then I'm going to read from Huffington Post a snippet of, like, an interview that Jimmy Kimmel gave, and I'm going to talk about why I pretty much disagree with it.

De'Vannon Seráphino: And then we'll go from there and the, the, the article that Jimmy Kimmel was talking about is about masturbation. So, but 1st, Dr. Gittens introduction. So, Dr. Gittens is a leading sexual medicine and male fertility specialist and board certified urologist with practices in New [00:05:00] York. The Lehigh Valley and Philadelphia.

De'Vannon Seráphino: He treats men and women from across the country and internationally. He focuses a wide range of elements from low sexual desire, pelvic pain, pain with intercourse, and orgasmia for women. He also treats ED, chronic testicular groin pain. Low testosterone and premature ejaculation for males. He is an expert in male infertility and treats men with advanced hormonal therapy.

De'Vannon Seráphino: Microscopic vario. How do you say that? 

Dr. Paul Gittens: No, varicoselectomy. Yeah, it's just, you know, that's all the male infertility stuff that I do. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: Varicoselectomy. 

Dr. Paul Gittens: OK, I like that. That 

De'Vannon Seráphino: would be a good word challenge. Varicoselectomy. You got to spell that forward and backwards. And, or performs, he also performs testicular extraction for in vitro fertilization.

De'Vannon Seráphino: He also performs procedures such as [00:06:00] microscopic vasectomy reversal, penile implant surgery, the no scalpel vasectomy, and microscopic nerve denervation for men with chronic testicular pain. 

Dr. Paul Gittens: And we also do a lot of girth enhancement as well. So for men that want to increase the girth of their penis, so we do a lot of that as well.

Dr. Paul Gittens: So it's a number of things that we do. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: Okay, so wait a minute. So before we get on Jimmy Kimmel's article about masturbation, if somebody want to make they dick thicker, what are you doing? Are you going in there? What are you injecting? How are you, how do you do that? 

Dr. Paul Gittens: Yeah, so we do it very carefully.

Dr. Paul Gittens: It's, it's, it's an off label treatment. So we use filler. So the same filler that you know, women will use for their face or men will use for their face to increase the volume in their face, so it's, it's hyaluronic acid. So we'll, we'll carefully place that between the skin and kind of the area of the penis to to give them, have these guys have a little more girth.

Dr. Paul Gittens: Right. So we turn that like a small [00:07:00] carrot into maybe a large, large pickle or an eggplant or so, you know, Not the eggplant emoji. That's where it came from. I think it originally came from the, the, the penile girth procedure. But we do a lot of those. We do them very carefully. We do You know, guys are really satisfied with their penis afterwards.

Dr. Paul Gittens: It's great. It's nice to see someone that comes in that has some insecurities about the size of their penis, and it's a quick procedure, and so they see the difference right away. So it's, it's it's one of the, one of my more favorite procedures I do in the office. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: When you say off label, does that mean like not FDA approved 

Dr. Paul Gittens: So for the girth enhancement, so we do a number of those procedures and so we use filler and when we say it's off label, that means that the filler is used for the face. So it's FDA approved for the face.

Dr. Paul Gittens: There's, there's no. FDA approved fillers for the penis. So we just take the filler we use for the face. We use it for the penis. It's very safe. [00:08:00] And we allow guys to get thicker fatter penises. It's, it's fantastic. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: So does it feel numb? Because you know, like, like, like, I'm asking that because in order to have like, I guess a relation to like gravitational pull or spatial relevance of I'm going to insert my dick inside of something and move it around.

De'Vannon Seráphino: I got to be able to have a sense of like space and time. 

Dr. Paul Gittens: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: Does that. Fuck with that? Does it change that? No, 

Dr. Paul Gittens: no, I mean if you, I mean if you go overboard obviously, I mean you're gonna have some decrease, you're gonna have some, some, some numbness of the penis because it's just, it's gonna be filled too much, but in general when you do it properly and we keep our expectations to the point we just want a thicker penis and we don't need a Coke can, right?

Dr. Paul Gittens: Then we're gonna, you know, your sensation's gonna be the same the look is gonna look great. And like I said, the majority of guys are really happy with it. [00:09:00] Do you 

De'Vannon Seráphino: measure like before and after? 

Dr. Paul Gittens: Yeah, we take pictures and we do pictures at different angles and everything. And we, we talk about expectations.

Dr. Paul Gittens: Obviously, if a guy comes in and he says, Hey, listen, Doc, like I want my penis the size of my leg. I'm going to say, I'm probably not the right guy for you, right? You may want to go somewhere else because, you know, I want it to look good. I want you to be happy with it, but we don't want to look. for it to look like deformed, you know?

Dr. Paul Gittens: And so we take before and after pictures and we talk about like expectations, we talk about how much we want it to to, you know, the girth to be, and then we go from there. And I always say, listen, let's start slow. You know, we can do it in stages. We'll see if you like this. And then from there we can always add more.

Dr. Paul Gittens: So it's great. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: What, what's the largest, like, change? Like, give me the before and after. He went from this many inches of girth to this many. 

Dr. Paul Gittens: So, I mean, you, it, it, it, it really depends on, like, how much we put in, right? Like I said, I'm not the guy that will keep on saying yes, yes, yes, more, more, more.

Dr. Paul Gittens: That's just [00:10:00] not me, you know? So we want to make sure we keep our expectations that, alright, it's going to look like a, like a normal penis. But it's going to look really good, it's going to feel good for you and it's going to feel good for your partner. That's the goal, you know, and so you know, you can go from, you know, you can go up a couple inches.

Dr. Paul Gittens: So it's and that's in girth, so that's, that's a good amount. So, you know, it, it depends on the, it also depends on where you're starting at. You know, there's some guys that are starting with not as much. And so we, you know, we, we make it look so, you know, they have a little bit more, you know, so they feel more confident when they're, you know, with their, with their partner, or they just feel more confident to walk around Manhattan, you know, and they just, you know, their heads up a little bit more and they just feel better about 

De'Vannon Seráphino: themselves.

De'Vannon Seráphino: It's great. Do they have to come back in a certain amount of time to get it redone? Does it wear off? Does it fade away? 

Dr. Paul Gittens: Yeah, so I always have my guys come back in two weeks You know, I'm just I think of every penis that I [00:11:00] fill as my own, you know And so I want to make sure it looks really good, right? So they'll come back at two weeks We do a follow up and we'll say alright.

Dr. Paul Gittens: Well, do we need to do a touch up here or do you want more? Right? Or are you happy? And I would say the majority of guys are happy after their first one. They're just, they just, they just love the way it looks and feels, you know? And so does it last? So I would say that, you know, for filler for the face, when you place it in the face, either in a male or a female, it probably lasts about a year, year and a half at most.

Dr. Paul Gittens: The filler in the penis lasts longer than that usually because I just think is you're not using it as much as kind of moving your face all the time. So I have guys that come back that, you know, even after three years, it still looks really good. Where there's some guys after two and a half years, you probably got to do like a little touch up.

Dr. Paul Gittens: So it depends on how your body metabolizes that hyaluronic acid that filler. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: I'm so happy that these dudes are feeling better, but on the other [00:12:00] side of the coin, I'm like, where did this low self esteem come from? You know, because if we lived in a world Where we didn't know what nobody else's dick looked like, there was no porn, people weren't sleeping around with a whole lot of people, and seeing all of these different bodies, and I don't really think that we would have this, there's something wrong with me, or I need to be better in the first place, and whether you had a 2 inch dick, an 18 inch one, or not, you were point 5 inches around, or a coke can, You wouldn't care because you wouldn't know.

Dr. Paul Gittens: Yeah. I mean, I, I mean, I think in the perfect world, that's how it would be, but we are in a world of where like, you know, you got, you have 60, 000 people or so looking at this podcast, right? So, you know, we're in a visual, we're in an audio world. And in the perfect world, you know, everybody would look at themselves and feel like they're perfect, right?

Dr. Paul Gittens: Everybody would say they have, there's no insecurities, but you know, unfortunately we don't live in a perfect world. And I think it's, [00:13:00] it's, you know, when I when I see my patients that are interested in girth enhancement, You know, I, I questioned them and I asked them, you know, I'm like, why are you here, you know, and if it's something that I feel is pathologic, I'll say, listen, like you know, I'm not the right guy for you, you know, if it's something that where I feel like they're trying to compensate for something else, or if it's a mental problem that they're having, then, you know, I'll say no, or I'll say, you know, like I said, I'm just not the right person for you, but I, I don't feel though that it's any different from somebody like cutting their hair or getting breasts done or whatever it is you know, people want to look better.

Dr. Paul Gittens: They want to feel better. And, you know, I don't, I honestly think there's nothing wrong with that. I honestly, you know, people want to drive a better car. They want to, you know, wear better shoes or whatever it is. But if it is pathologic and if I pick up on that, then I'll be the first person to say, Hey, listen, like let's, let's hold back a little bit.

Dr. Paul Gittens: Okay. You know, that's everybody knows [00:14:00] I've been around. I mean, I've been my, you know, I've been running my own practice for close to 10 years now, and I've been around a lot of people and people know that when they come to me, they're coming to someone that really cares about them and that wants the best for them.

Dr. Paul Gittens: So and that's the only reason I've been around. You see, you know, sometimes you'll see these sex clinics that open up for one year. They close in year two or three, right? And I just think it's, it's a quality thing. You gotta care for your patients and, you know, you you figure things out on the, on, on, on the way there.

De'Vannon Seráphino: Well, at least you're bothering to give a damn about what's going on in the heart and the soul because there's never any separating, you know, heart, soul, and spirit from whatever it is that we do. And in any aspect of life, and especially in healthcare. As a massage therapist, you know, I've been a licensed massage, massage therapist for like seven years.

De'Vannon Seráphino: You know, it's not always about the massage. You know, as people come for the one thing, but really it's because of the emotional thing behind it. And [00:15:00] even though we might not be psychiatrists, you know, we still have to, like you said, pay attention, read those signs and really get into that and see what's going on.

De'Vannon Seráphino: So I'm happy that That, that your practice is not shallow and that you're really, really taking the time to care about the, the, the, the, the person, like the whole person setting in front of you and not just selling, you know, you know, people, everything they want to buy and being sure that it's not going to hurt them.

Dr. Paul Gittens: No, I mean, that's the tenet of our practice, you know, you know, I think that's it. And you're right. People, you know, they may be coming in for one thing, but they're but they're maybe their subconscious has brought them in for one thing, but it's really something else. And so you have to really pay attention to all these little details if you're going to do it on a high level.

Dr. Paul Gittens: You know and, and, you know, we, you know, we hope, you know, I hope we've been doing it on a high level for all these years. And so we pay attention to these little details, like for me, like even the way a person comes into the [00:16:00] office or I usually greet them, you know, I usually have some time. So I'll, I'll go out into the lobby, I'll, I'll bring them back into my office.

Dr. Paul Gittens: And I do that not just because I want them to feel welcome, but just also, I like to kind of. Meet them in their environment and kind of see how they're walking or how they're talking if they're nervous if they're not nervous or or whatever it might be and you got to pick up on cues, especially when you're doing something as as delicate as sexual medicine.

Dr. Paul Gittens: You really have to pick up on the little things, you know, sometimes it's it's more of what they don't say and how they're Kind of speaking or if they're speaking softer or if they're speaking loud or if they're making like little tick movements or what have you got to pay attention to all these little things in terms of really trying to be successful in what you do.

Dr. Paul Gittens: And just like you as a massage therapist you pick up on these little things, right, you pick up on little like movements in the back or if there's tension or something like that and you can, and you can ask them these questions because you've been doing it so long and you're so great at what you do. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: Oh, thanks, doc.

De'Vannon Seráphino: And you [00:17:00] are, you're the best. You're the best. I actually, I'm going to refer one of my friends to you. I was just, this is how the Holy Ghost works. I was just talking to her today and she was supposed to come see me and she couldn't because she has like this chronic pelvic pain thing that's going on.

De'Vannon Seráphino: And I don't know that her doctors. Here in New York are, I don't know if they're really hitting the mark and so I don't think it's any coincidence that I'm talking to you now and that's something that you have experience in because she's been struggling with it for a while. And so I'm definitely gonna send, send her your information because all of this information will go in the show notes.

De'Vannon Seráphino: So that you can contact him, contact a good doctor and find out and so and I just love that. I'm very excited, you know, that you have that, that so it's sexual, but it can be, it can go deeper than that. Because if somebody is like, say, with her case, chronic pelvic pain, you know, that could be coming from.

De'Vannon Seráphino: You know, anything. Her doctor was saying it could be like a cyst. They don't know, you know, and all of that, but it's been going on for such a long time. It's time for a new point of view. It's time [00:18:00] for another opinion. 

Dr. Paul Gittens: Yeah, I'll be happy to see what I can come up with for her. I'd be very happy for that.

Dr. Paul Gittens: You know, it's just, You know, especially when it, when it comes to chronic pain or it's, it's so debilitating and it can really affect so many different parts of your life. Right? I mean, like you said, you know, sometimes you can't get out of bed or you're, you know, your levels of or pain are so high that you're depressed or whatever it might be.

Dr. Paul Gittens: So it's something that, you know, you, you usually want to do like a multi-pronged sort of approach and make sure you're having somebody that she can talk to. You know, I'm sure you're a great friend, but also having someone, like a therapist that she can talk to, you know, in the times that she needs that. And then maybe somebody for her pelvic floor or somebody that's actually treating if it's, you know, some issues with the vagina itself or whatever it might be.

Dr. Paul Gittens: So but a team approach is always kind of the best approach I find. Mm-hmm . 

De'Vannon Seráphino: In that, in that case. Yeah. [00:19:00] And then they call in somebody like me for the spiritual stuff, and I'll be like, okay, now let me look at these meridians and these chakras and see if we have any energy blockages going on, you know, let me do my whole shamanic thing, let me pray, let me lay some hands, and then we have it.

De'Vannon Seráphino: Now we really have the full spectrum. 

Dr. Paul Gittens: Yeah, the full spectrum, right? 

De'Vannon Seráphino: You can't forget about that. I'll tell you that you cannot forget about that. You're like, let me see what the Holy Ghost is saying here. I love the fusion of natural and spirit because we are, and I think science, religion go beautifully together.

De'Vannon Seráphino: I don't think that they ever had to fight. I think the whole point was to, to use them both, you know, that way you have it all and have strength from both sides. And so, No, I 

Dr. Paul Gittens: totally agree. I think, I think they both complement each other perfectly, you know, and it's not one side or the other, you know, you know, I think that there's some, some cases where, you know, I think that, you [00:20:00] know, like modern, like I would say, I'm saying modern medicine, I'm saying traditional medicine may be helpful.

Dr. Paul Gittens: And there's a lot of, reasons why, I think they You know, spiritual medicine is also so important, you know, we're not just a body, it's not just a shell, but, you know, we're a soul on the inside as well. And so I think a combined approach is always one of the best approaches. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: Preach, that's just the devil, you know, that gets inside of people, making them want to fight like that.

De'Vannon Seráphino: You know, making one side feel like it has to prevail over the other, because when he does that, then it causes them to lose out on having the full. Well, the full buffet, but they could, they want to say this, this end of the buffet has to be better than the other one, then they, then they'll be blinded to the fact that there was benefits the whole time.

Dr. Paul Gittens: Yeah. And you know, and interesting enough, there was a, this is when I was a med student, there was a study, which was in JAMA, which is like a big medical journal. And they look at the power of prayer, actually, they look at the power of [00:21:00] prayer. And it was a, it was actually a scientific study where they, you use all the scientific criteria, but they found that the power of prayer was very strong. It was significant, you know, it was a significant, statistically significant difference with, with patients that had someone praying for them. So there's definitely that, that side that's so, so important.

Dr. Paul Gittens: And, and prayer can mean, as you know, so many different things and so many different actions. And it's a beautiful thing, I think. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: Yeah, the the clairvoyant who raised me, she always used to say that prayer changes things, you know, prayer changes things. How did they qualify that in that study that they they tracked some statistics for a while or?

De'Vannon Seráphino: You know, 

Dr. Paul Gittens: statistics, I, it was a long time ago. And, and to be honest, I remember the conclusion. I don't remember all the methods that like with the detail and the methods, but. You know, as someone that when I was younger, I'd go to, you know, I was, went [00:22:00] to traditional church all the time. I found that to be fascinating.

Dr. Paul Gittens: So I, you know, these clips of, you know, these articles are kind of running through my brain and everything. And, and, you know, when a, when a patient says, you know and I don't do any general urology anymore, you know, I focus on, you know, sexual medicine and everything, but especially when I did general urology and.

Dr. Paul Gittens: You know, in the person's diagnosed with cancer of some sort, and they're saying, you know, you know, I'm going through all these chemotherapies and, you know, you think prayer will help. I'm like, yeah, you know, I could say that 100 percent it can. And so it's, it's it's, it's, it's, like I said, it's, it's the other part of it.

Dr. Paul Gittens: Not even the other side of it. It's like the other part. It's like the A and the one, you know, I think they're both equally important and so yeah, but I don't, I don't, to be honest, I don't remember the details of the study. I just remember it was a large study that looked at these, what they, it was the study, they call it alternative forms of medicine, you know, and, and prayer was one of them.

Dr. Paul Gittens: So it was pretty cool. It [00:23:00] was pretty cool. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: Yep, prayer changes things, y'all. Okay, so let's, let's get over into this HuffPost article and talk about us some good old masturbation. 

Dr. Paul Gittens: I get all the articles, let me tell you, and when people say stuff, people just, you know, it's like all these papers they Somehow they find me, you know, it's like I had one on like pre com the other day.

Dr. Paul Gittens: And somebody, some star said something about pre com and, and then this Jimmy Kimmel thing came out and Jimmy Kimmel's like, shouldn't masturbate. Cause it just takes your mind off of stuff. And, and so you know, it's somehow like, I'm the, I'm the, the expert on these, like these, these things that are out there, but, you know, I love it.

Dr. Paul Gittens: To be honest with you. I like to try to answer questions that, you know, everyday people have. So it's, it's cool. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: They're all. And you know, let me just read this title. So, so the title of this article, and this just came out on the 8th of this month. So this this is only like a couple of weeks old. I will post a link to this in the show notes.[00:24:00]

De'Vannon Seráphino: And the title of it is, Jimmy Kimmel says single men should stop masturbating. Here's what experts think. And so, so basically in this, let me just read it, it says, When asked by the host whether he had any suggestions for people struggling to get into a relationship, Jimmy Kimmel said, Really, what kills ya, and I think, especially for guys, is masturbating.

De'Vannon Seráphino: Jimmy continues, If you got a, you know, not so great buffet at your house, You're not going to go out for meals, and I think that, you know, a lot of people get caught up in their world of pornography and they lose a desire to procreate. Jimmy added that he'd advised two of his single male friends to stop masturbating for a month, after which point he said they found their wives.

De'Vannon Seráphino: Then we get Dr. Gittens coming in here. It says HuffPost UK spoke to urologist and sexual health expert Dr. Paul Gittens and a [00:25:00] sexologist. He says, And then another doctor, Dr. Hargins, who gave advice in this article. Dr. Gittens under the title, under the section title, What's the Verdict? Dr. Gittens told HuffPost UK, Jimmy is correct in the fact that anything that is overused or overdone can cause side effects.

De'Vannon Seráphino: He is incorrect to say all men will not have the desire to be with a partner if they masturbate. So Jimmy Kimmel has said, if you wank it too much, you just want to go out there and find a wife or boyfriend or whatever, just want to stay home and wank it all the time. You're saying not so much. 

Dr. Paul Gittens: Yeah. I mean, I think it'd be fantastic if everybody, you know, who's looking for a partner, they just stopped masturbating for a day and then they find a partner the next day.

Dr. Paul Gittens: That'd be fantastic. I mean, listen, if that I'm, I'm in right for that. You know, a lot of my partners who are looking for a lot of my patients are looking for partners. They'll they'll be happy. You know, masturbation is one of those things, you know, [00:26:00] it's, it's one of those things that you know, I feel in a lot of experts feel that it's healthy, right?

Dr. Paul Gittens: You know, there's a lot of benefits that come from it, you know, like in the brain, all these great neurotransmitters that are like release like dopamine and like good serotonin and like all these great things that can help you relax and everything. You know, so it's a great stress reliever, you know, it's it's a way for a guy to kind of understand their body a little bit.

Dr. Paul Gittens: Like, you know, I always, I always tell my patients that it's hard for you to, understand what you want and, and, and to have your partner just like magically understand what makes you feel good. If you don't understand what makes you feel good, right? If that's male, if you're a male, female, whatever, whatever.

Dr. Paul Gittens: Right. You got to know what makes you feel good. What does, what turns you on? Right. So I think masturbation is one of those things that can help with men or women. I also think that, you know, I think that some of what he's saying, I understand what [00:27:00] somebody was saying, that there are some people that are addicted to pornography and that is their life, you know, they're watching pornography and, and they are not, And they're not, you know, looking for a partner.

Dr. Paul Gittens: I think that is on the other side, right? So everything, if you do something too much, then it could be it could be not beneficial. So but in general, I think masturbation is something that is healthy and that's something that so many people do. And I think it's it's a good thing. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: I'm digging your point of view.

De'Vannon Seráphino: I'm glad that you're thinking, about so deeply about something like this that can be so often brushed under the rug. It was not discussed in my household. The church told me just not to do it at all. And then that was the end of that. And so of course that didn't work. You know, I had to, you know, have to do something because my body doesn't work that way.

De'Vannon Seráphino: Like if, Like, I generate like, like, like an insane amount of cum and so and [00:28:00] if I don't pretty much masturbate at least once a day, this whole blue ball thing is like real and it is painful and things like swell up down there. I can't take a month off of masturbating. I'd be bent over, you know. Then you'd find me frozen on the side of the street somewhere.

De'Vannon Seráphino: I gotta, I gotta look back through 

Dr. Paul Gittens: your shows and I got to see when you're like a little bit irritable. I'll be like, Oh, that's what happened. He didn't that's big turn that show. What happened? Right. So but yeah, you know, you, and people feel that way, you know, and if you don't have a partner, if you do have a partner, you know, it's still healthy, you know, obviously, you know, I mean, it's obvious, right.

Dr. Paul Gittens: If you're doing it. All day. And that's the only thing you're doing. The only thing that you're focused on, then that's a little different. Right. And that's when we have to kind of come in and say, Hey, listen, let's, let's, let's try to do something different. You know, so. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: Yeah, I don't like the way Jimmy, you know, I like, I like Jimmy personally, and I have a problem with Jimmy as a comedian, though, I'm like, at one part of me is like, why the fuck are you talking about masturbating and giving your friends [00:29:00] advice on, like, relationships and things like that.

De'Vannon Seráphino: But, you know, they're friends, whatever. It just, I was kind of like, why are you talking about, whatever. But nevertheless, he said what he said. Yeah, 

Dr. Paul Gittens: you know, he probably 

De'Vannon Seráphino: said it out of jest, you know, it was one of those things that So now we got, so now we have an opportunity to say what we say. I don't like how he took it right to procreation and relationships.

De'Vannon Seráphino: You know, sexual energy comes from the divine, it comes from God, and it's like potential energy within us. And then we can use it in many different ways. It could be masturbating. It could be dating. It could be creating art. It could be writing a book, you know, sexual energy is potential energy. It is not kinetic until we decide to do something with it.

De'Vannon Seráphino: And it does not have to be directed to a person at all. And and it does not have to necessarily be used towards procreation. His answer has this tone of a necessity to find a partner. It almost has this tone of making that like more important than being single, [00:30:00] which is not true. You know, not every experience is for everybody to have.

De'Vannon Seráphino: It might not be for you to get married, or it might not be for you to have a relationship at all, or to have children. That is not the ideal Life for everybody and then people go run out trying to force that to happen and they end up in these relationships that they hate Because it's never was what God wanted for them in the first place.

De'Vannon Seráphino: So I don't maybe 

Dr. Paul Gittens: they should have just masturbated Right, I'm just saying but yeah, you're absolutely right it's it's taken from one point of view and you know I don't know the whole context of the the interview or where it came from or anything like that. So, yeah, I don't know where like his what his thought process was but You know, I just like to comment on these things in general, because so many people have these, you know, so many things have so many people have these questions about, you know, sexuality and masturbation and everything.

Dr. Paul Gittens: So I think it's a good, it's a good entry into it, to be honest with you. And it opens up discussion. And we have these discussions like you and I are [00:31:00] having. And, and so I think it was, You know, I think it's a good thing that he brought it up, you know, because now we can talk about now we're, we got to show about masturbation.

Dr. Paul Gittens: Right. We're like, you know, so I, you know, that's the way I think it's like, you know, it's just, it's an opportunity. It's an opportunity for us to kind of, you know, for you to educate your listeners for me to. educate my patients about this. You know, like you said, like in a lot of households it's not talked about.

Dr. Paul Gittens: I have, you know, I have patients that are ultra whatever religion they're in. Right. And it's not talked about as well. Actually it's shunned, you know, and I have patients that have hidden their whole life about masturbation and they come in and they're, you know, when they masturbate, or even if they started having intercourse with, with someone that they're not married with, they feel ashamed and everything like that.

Dr. Paul Gittens: So, you know, these are all like, You know, somebody is going to be helped by this conversation, you know, and somebody is going to reach out to someone and maybe get some help or what have you. So I think it's great. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: Amen and amen to that [00:32:00] brother. So, okay, speaking of these overly religious households and having grown up in a one or a household that's not even overly religious, but perhaps quieted by narcissism or whatever sort of shadow might be hanging over it where things that the truth just doesn't come out.

De'Vannon Seráphino: There is nothing wrong with masturbation. God don't care. masturbation. I done been through the scriptures that they try to use to try to control this. There is nothing wrong with it. If you have a son, he gonna have a dick. It is gonna start getting hard. If you don't tell him what he can do with it. Then he's going to do like I did and start running around the house, finding random ass shit to stick his dick in.

De'Vannon Seráphino: With no, I mean, no stuffed animal was safe, no pillow was safe, I mean, I got to, I got to experimenting because there was no adult telling me when I was 13 or 14 or in the 6th or 7th grade when I started popping boners what was going on. So do not abandon your teenage [00:33:00] son or earlier, you know, he could be younger than that and just leave this boy to figure it out on his own or to have to turn to porn or his friends at school.

De'Vannon Seráphino: You have an obligation. 

Dr. Paul Gittens: Well, I think, you know, I think that, you know, parents or providers, whoever that might be. I think they do. I think you have to be comfortable with yourself first, right? And I think, you know, especially, you know, I find that when Patients come to my office and, and, you know, they've, they tried to talk to a physician about, you know, having issues, having some kind of problem sexually or whatever, and they get kind of rushed out of the office.

Dr. Paul Gittens: And I always think to myself, maybe that physician or that person just wasn't comfortable with their own sexuality. Right? Because you have to be comfortable with your own sexuality before you can kind of talk about it and to ask the right questions and not feel embarrassed about it. When somebody comes in my office, I just, like, we talk about, like, orgasm, we talk about all the masturb [00:34:00] everything, you know?

Dr. Paul Gittens: And it just comes out and it's very natural, but it's because I do this every day and I'm really comfortable with, like, myself, I feel, as a man, but also in my craft as a physician. So taking it back to the home, you know, I feel like, you know it's difficult for some parents or providers to be able to kind of bring this up because maybe they don't feel comfortable themselves.

Dr. Paul Gittens: And so it's got to be. So they have to be educated. They have to be educated on. You know, how to bring it up to their, to their to their, whoever they're talking to, if it's male, female, whatever, right? They have to be comfortable in talking about it or, or, or, or they can send somebody to the, to the, so they can have a, you know, their family member that can talk about it, too.

Dr. Paul Gittens: Or find some kind of resource. But I think it is important that we talk about it when you're younger because What happens is that person goes out into the world and they don't know anything about their penis or their vagina and and you know what that can lead to, you know, so I think I [00:35:00] think we got to talk about it.

Dr. Paul Gittens: I mean, I have a, I have a daughter and, you know, it's, and she's probably gonna be embarrassed if she sees this, but like, you know, when she was younger, we, I would say that, you know, your, this is, these are your breasts, they're gonna grow and like, you're gonna have, you know, we call them boobies, you're gonna have boobies, you know, all this stuff.

Dr. Paul Gittens: stuff. And so, you know, for me, I, I talked about it when they were younger. So now she's older and I talk about it and if it comes up, she's not embarrassed, right? You have to, it has to be, it has to be age appropriate for one, because if you go over their head, they're going to also be like ashamed and embarrassed.

Dr. Paul Gittens: So he has to be age appropriate depending on what age they're, you know, their maturity level as well. That's all, so that's, that's all really important, but I agree. I think that we should have those discussions at home and your first experience shouldn't be. You know, a boy or a girl forcing you to have sex and touching your, you know, your privates or whatever, that shouldn't be your first experience.

De'Vannon Seráphino: Sex starts so early and then the way music and media is pretty much as soon as you put an iPad in front of a child, [00:36:00] they have exposure to sex. And so in my opinion, soon as they are born, start telling them something. I don't even know because I mean, because it's because if you don't, then the devil is going to get ahead of you and start putting little things in that kid's mind.

De'Vannon Seráphino: And one of the main ways that Lucifer destroys people is through misuse of sexual energy. And because it feels so natural, it's difficult for people to understand when they're using sexual energy and getting themselves in these sexual situations. And it's damaging to them because it feels so sensually natural.

De'Vannon Seráphino: People don't understand that not everything that is sensually stimulating. To the body is good, you know, it just depends on all the different variables on masturbation by itself. I'm curious, like, physically, like, can, is it damaging to the male if we masturbate, like, too many times, say, like, back to back, like, one time when I was a teenager, I was, like, super, like, you know, watching porn and all this stuff, and I think I masturbated, like, [00:37:00] four times, like, in a row, back to back, and I wonder, like, is it possible for one to hurt oneself Like physically.

Dr. Paul Gittens: No, I mean, I think it depends on the aggressor. So I have guys that, it also depends on the style of masturbation. So, you know, we always think that, all right, somebody is using their hand and they're kind of going up and down on their penis, right? But there's other people that masturbate on their bed.

Dr. Paul Gittens: They'll lie on their bed and they're kind of like kind of grind the bed. You know, there's other people that may use some kind of tools to masturbate. So depending on like how you're masturbating, how forcefully you're masturbating. Then it shouldn't cause any harm, right? But there are harmful ways to masturbate.

Dr. Paul Gittens: You know, I had a guy that was, like, he literally had a hole in the wall. And I don't know, you know, you know, I was a little worried because I'm like, Alright, was it plaster wall? Was it, like, drywall? Like, what's going on? You know? And so, you know, so, obviously, like, you know, I worry about things like that.

Dr. Paul Gittens: I, I have [00:38:00] some guys that use, I don't know how he was doing it, but he was using, like, a a tube from a tire and like he had some, you know, he had wrapped it around and it was some like lubrication he'd wrapped around his penis. So, you know there's a lot of different ways to masturbate. It's not always the traditional way that you think of that you might've like, you know, seen in a movie or, or, or, or what have you.

Dr. Paul Gittens: So, in general, you know Masturbation is not going to hurt you, you know but like I said, excess is, you know, anything on an extreme could cause some damage, right? So if that's all you're doing all day, you know, I would worry about other things. You know, like why you're doing it. Are you lacking other things and in your life and and then we would try to, you know, I don't, I don't go into that, that deep, but I would, I would refer you to like a sex therapist or what have you that can kind of, especially if it's, if it's something that you, if it's somewhat of an addiction for you and you feel like it's a problem, then yeah, so we'll get you help, but in general, you know, for, for [00:39:00] masturbation, as I mentioned, it's, it's It's, it's very healthy and it's, it's no shouldn't be any problems.

De'Vannon Seráphino: In, in spiritual circles, we, we, we have this thing that we call intentional purposeful isolation. This is something that we do to get closer to God, to recharge ourselves, to cleanse our energy, to detach from people. So one of the things that I did a lot when I've been in like this two years of like sexual isolation is a lot of masturbation, but mindfully so.

De'Vannon Seráphino: Like, so that area has to do with like your sacral and root chakra a lot. And so, like, say if somebody wants to clear their sacral chakra, then that has to do with the color orange, so you put an orange light on, LED light, orange candle, sacral chakra, music, which you can get, like, on YouTube, or Apple, or whatever, and then you masturbate to that sort of music, and then they can, they can bring in, like, a spiritual cleansing, like, in that way.

De'Vannon Seráphino: I just want to take this Just say that real quick, [00:40:00] without, without, without putting too much into that. Because I want to I wanted to comment on the whole porn thing from a spiritual perspective. Somebody, like, messaged me some time ago or left a comment on one of the YouTube videos trying to, like, defend his position against porn.

De'Vannon Seráphino: So the thing that, why I don't watch porn is for, like, spiritual purposes because everything has an energetic transaction to it. And personally, I think sex is not something that is supposed to be observed by other people. It's, to me, it is a high magic, sacred ritual, you know, that is supposed to be used to honor God, honor the people doing it.

De'Vannon Seráphino: I don't think it's something that's supposed to be used for entertainment. But, because when you're watching people on TV, just having sex, it takes away the intimacy of it. You know, how they met and all the beautiful things that you do before you get to that point, and it can miseducate people that that is what sex is, just this thing that you do, and then understanding the soul tie behind the scenes.[00:41:00]

De'Vannon Seráphino: And, and then also just watching that there's always like a spiritual transfer that happens. And what I was trying to get this dude to understand is porn might not hurt you today, but the way devil energy works is it will step inside of you and leave these little seeds that sprout and hurt you over years, you know, if not decades, and now your self esteem isn't right.

De'Vannon Seráphino: You can't actually relate an emote with somebody in a relationship. Are you watching this, this girl get, like, jackhammered and now you think every girl wants to get jackhammered like that, like, it can subtly mess with you like that, and then the problems won't show up till later. And so 

Dr. Paul Gittens: Yeah, I don't, I, you know, I think I mean, you're a lot more spiritual than I am, so, you know you, you may know a little bit more about that than, than I do.

Dr. Paul Gittens: I, you know, I think there's a lot of reasons why people use porn, you know, and, you know, I, you know, I'm not sure about the, I don't know [00:42:00] about, you know, the spiritual ramifications of it, but we do know that it's it's out there and it's readily available. You know, and a lot of people watch it, and they watch it for different reasons.

Dr. Paul Gittens: You know, sometimes they watch it for education. They're like, Oh, you know, I've never been with a woman. And so, or, or a guy and like, all right, what am I supposed to do? Like, because maybe they haven't been maybe nobody educated them about it. Or, or, or, you know, or maybe they watch it because. They just need to be able to kind of release some sexual frustration or what have you.

Dr. Paul Gittens: So or they're just watching it because it's entertaining. I don't, you know, why people are, they want to get turned on and they need something visual when they're masturbating. You know, so there's a number of reasons, like, psychologically and that people watch porn, you know, I just think that, once again, you know, like, too much is too much, you know, and you know, and if they're watching it too much, you can, like, and, and as you know, there is porn addiction, and and, you know, [00:43:00] those people are just as addicted to porn as people are addicted to alcohol or drugs.

Dr. Paul Gittens: You know, it's, it's a dopamine high that they get and they always want more, right? You always want more. You see like the two people having sex, then you need three people having sex, then you need three people and a dog having sex, you know, whatever, whatever it is, you know, so to excess, but you know, you know, do I you know, when people, when I see people, I just, I have no judgment, you know, I, I've seen.

Dr. Paul Gittens: You know, if you can understand all the things I've seen in my office, and for me, as a professional, as someone that's out there to help people, like, I just, there's no judgment. You know, I don't, I don't judge, I don't say, this is something you can't do. We work with people, we try to meet them wherever they are, and then we help with their sexual dysfunction.

Dr. Paul Gittens: And then if it's something that is a problem, then I say, listen, we gotta get you to a therapist, and if you need help. That's, that's my role. My role is not to, [00:44:00] you know, to, to judge or anything like that. It's really to help. And that's how I view like sexual medicine. Like I said, I, I see people, I see, you know, congressmen and senators that say one thing on, on, on TV and they come in, they tell me something totally different.

Dr. Paul Gittens: You know, like I see, we see, we see the people from, you know, people like my parents who are mop the floors to people that are some of the most powerful people in America. So my job, my job is not to judge. It's to just to really help them and and wherever they are. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: Right. I concur. And spiritually, my job is not to judge, but it is to make people aware of where they might have devil energy lurking and unknown risks they might not be aware of.

De'Vannon Seráphino: And then they always got to make their own decisions. But the same, you know, we advise that our clients are people, but they have to make their own decisions, but no judgment here either. [00:45:00] In terms of the erectile dysfunction, I wanted to also say that, you know, sometimes that can be, you know, I want to ask you some of the reasons you see for that and also posit.

De'Vannon Seráphino: well not posit, but let you know that sometimes that's also like an energy blockage to coming back to like the whole sacral, You know, the sacral chakra region, I have the energy center down there. I mean, this could happen from all kinds of ways. Sometimes if people have had too much sex with too many different people, cause the person can be sexually active a lot and still have a closed sacral chakra.

De'Vannon Seráphino: It depends on how it works and to clear it up, you've got to go into isolation and get out of other people's energy and pray before God and all kinds of stuff like that. And but from your end. What have you seen that some of this erectile dysfunction coming from? Are there any implications to like people using sex apps or dating apps or things like that?

De'Vannon Seráphino: Have you noticed? 

Dr. Paul Gittens: You know, I look at it from this is where I kind of look at it more from [00:46:00] the medical standpoint. You know, and so we know that guys that have ED, you know, we know that a lot of them will have like high blood pressure, high you know, high cholesterol, they'll have diabetes. A lot of inflammation, right?

Dr. Paul Gittens: We know that they may have some issues with their hormones, or they may have some issues with nerves. They may have some scarring from like, from like too much trauma to their penis. They may have some issues with adrenaline, and they may have some issues with stress and some other issues in their life.

Dr. Paul Gittens: So, you know, we take it from all of those points and we try to figure out exactly, like, what could be causing it. And we try to diagnose it and then we try to fix it on a medical level, you know, on a, on a medical level because we know all these things that affect the penis can also affect other parts of the body.

Dr. Paul Gittens: Like, you know, we know that when you look at data and you look at guys that say if you look at Viagra or Cialis, so Viagra or Cialis are medications that guys take for ED, right? And if [00:47:00] you look at that at a period of time, and then if you move ahead. Like three to five years, you see those same guys that were prescribed Viagra and Cialis.

Dr. Paul Gittens: Now they're doing, now they're taking medications for their blood pressure and their cholesterol, right? So we know that, like, when we see ED, we know that's usually kind of sort of the first thing to tell us that something's going on with the body. medically, right? And so we know that it's a progressing.

Dr. Paul Gittens: When you look at guys that have ED, we know that if you look ahead in a few years, they're more likely to have a heart attack and a stroke. So we know that medically that it is an indicator of what could be going on with the rest of the body, at least medically. So that's the way I look at it. And we know that there are some risk factors that will predispose guys to having erectile dysfunction.

Dr. Paul Gittens: And then there's like different types, like, you know, you having a problem starting or keeping the erection. You know, we always talk about initiation and maintenance of the erections. Yeah, obviously partner is a partner is really important. Like you know, are you is your partner giving you a hard time about [00:48:00] this?

Dr. Paul Gittens: Cause then that can increase your stress, right? I have some guys where, you know, their partners are saying like, listen, I don't even want to have sex if you're going to just fail, you know? And if that's the case, you know, that's going to make it harder for this guy to get an erection the next time, you know, so we look at all these things and we try to say, all right, this is how we're going to fix this, this part of it, this part of the puzzle, we're going to fix this part of the puzzle, and then we're going to get you to have better erections in some way.

Dr. Paul Gittens: So I take it from more of a medical standpoint than obviously you, which you're taking it for more of a spiritual. Standpoint, which is just as important, like we mentioned 

De'Vannon Seráphino: child is happy to have both sides of the coin, the full buffet. We don't have it all here on the section. I was in Jesus podcast, baby.

De'Vannon Seráphino: Yes, the basis of your relationship is not supposed to be sex. Okay. The base is your relationship. You cannot build a real relationship on sex, you know, period. So I just, just don't like you should not let nobody oppress you. Disrespect you, insult you, or reduce you down to [00:49:00]just dick. Or vagina. Or vagina.

De'Vannon Seráphino: Or vagina. Yeah, women are important, trans are important, but Everybody. Everybody. But, you know, I'm coming at this from, you know, what I felt like the spirit was telling me to focus on, but, you know. Yeah, yeah, 

Dr. Paul Gittens: yeah. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: We, we can't talk about all three , not in one hour. We 

Dr. Paul Gittens: need a couple. We can eat a couple hours.

Dr. Paul Gittens: We need like a whole day for that. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: may, maybe I'll get with your assistant and then she can come back on there. We can just talk about like anorgasmia and stuff like that. That's a whole hour right there with women and and men. 

Dr. Paul Gittens: We see a lot of men with anorgasmia. Yeah. We see a lot of men that can't ejaculate.

Dr. Paul Gittens: It's a, it's a lot of topics under you know, under this umbrella of things. And I don't know, it's a lot of fun in my office. So we have a, you know, I love my job, which is, you know, I'm, I'm privileged to be able to say that. Not many people could say they love what they do. I mean, I obviously love, I love coming to work every single day [00:50:00] and really helping people.

Dr. Paul Gittens: Like it's just, you know, I, I wouldn't want to do, I'm, I'm so fortunate. You know, I come from an immigrant family and. You know, my parents had to work their butts off and like, you know, and and I don't think they love their jobs, you know, and I'm really fortunate to say that I you know, I'm blessed and I can say that I love what I do.

De'Vannon Seráphino: I do too, man, and I thank God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost for putting me in this position. You're talking about very few of us who can smile like this and be like, Oh, yes, I'm going to do what I do, helping people and doing all of that. I wanted to ask you, you said trauma to penis, and then we're going to wrap this up.

De'Vannon Seráphino: When you say trauma to penis, like from what? 

Dr. Paul Gittens: If you're, I mean, you know, there's some guys that can have like a penile fracture. Like if they have rough sex, they can have like a fracture of their penis. There's some guys that can develop like something called Peyronie's disease, which is scarring of the penis.

Dr. Paul Gittens: That is probably genetic and [00:51:00] some trauma. So there's things that can happen to your penis that, you know you know, sports injuries or what have you, that can cause some, some, some problems with the penis that, that can lead to some trauma that can lead to some erection problems. So. Fracture. How. Well, it's not a bone.

Dr. Paul Gittens: It's not a bone, but there is like an envelope around the penis that keeps everything together. And that envelope can kind of, depending if you're having sex. So if you're having sex with a partner and you go in the wrong place or somebody kind of comes down on you in the wrong place, then you can kind of have a disruption of that envelope around your penis.

Dr. Paul Gittens: And have some issues that way. It's painful, I know, but it happens, you know. It usually happens in the middle of the night, though. It usually happens like at 3 a. m. in the morning. You know, too much to drink or something. But it is it is something that happens. Lord Jesus, help today. I know, right? So many things to talk about.

Dr. Paul Gittens: So, all right. So, do you, [00:52:00] you are, you do virtual appointments as well? We do do telemedicine appointment. You have to be in the state though, like the laws have changed. So you have to be in the state of, like, I can't treat anyone if they're in California. I can talk to them and then they would have to come to the office and we'd have to have a face to face with them.

De'Vannon Seráphino: Okay. Okay. Thank you so much, doctor. Before we, wrap this up, I was gonna I'm gonna ask you three bad jokes. I'd like to ask people jokes at the end. It's kind of lighten the mood since. All right. 

Dr. Paul Gittens: I feel like the mood's been light the whole time. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: Yeah, it kind of has been, but usually it can get. It can get fiery, you know, in terms of like the depth of it, you know, it can go dark.

De'Vannon Seráphino: But before I ask you the dad jokes, is there any last, are there any last words of encouragement advice or self promotion or anything you'd like to say? 

Dr. Paul Gittens: Well, I mean, I don't, I don't know about self promotion, but I would just say that, you know, if there's anybody out there that's having [00:53:00] problems, you know, and, and no matter where they are, there's always going to be some, there's somebody out there to kind of help, you know, you just have, you may have to search a little bit further.

Dr. Paul Gittens: You know if it's, you know, sexual function, if you're in the state, I'd be happy to see you. But there's other people that are out there that they do this for a living. And so just don't give up if it's something that's important to you. You know, you don't have to give up your sexuality, you don't have to give up, your function.

Dr. Paul Gittens: There's, you know, there's a lot of people out there that can help you out. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: Oh, that felt like a warm hug on this call. 

Dr. Paul Gittens: I'm a, I'm a warm hug, man. That's what I am. You know, it's, it's, it's, it's a problem, but you know, it's but yeah, so I just, you know, that's the biggest thing. Because, you know, I see so many people that have gone helpless and hopeless for all this stuff.

Dr. Paul Gittens: And so, you know, I just, I just want to make that, that's more of my message. So the self promotion stuff, like, you know, I'm not worried about [00:54:00] that. You know, we, we're around, but just wanting people to know that. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: All right. I got you on the promotions. I'm gonna handle you. I got you. All right. Joke.

De'Vannon Seráphino: Number one, why do crabs never give to charity? Why is that? Because they're shellfish. 

Dr. Paul Gittens: Oh, that's good. All right. I got it. That's good. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: That's 

Dr. Paul Gittens: very good. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: Okay. I like that one. Thank you. I knew that you would. Okay. The second one is, Why did the egg take the day off from work? 

Dr. Paul Gittens: Something to do with the chicken, right?

Dr. Paul Gittens: An egg day off from work. Tell me why. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: Because it was Friday. 

Dr. Paul Gittens: That's good. That's a good one. It was Friday. That's good. I like that one. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: He's like, not today. 

Dr. Paul Gittens: Not today. That Friday. That [00:55:00] Friday. That's a good one. I like that. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: Alright, then the last one. How many Stormtroopers does it take to change a lightbulb?

Dr. Paul Gittens: How many? 

De'Vannon Seráphino: None because they're all on the dark side. 

Dr. Paul Gittens: Oh, I get it. That's a Star Wars joke. I like that one. You gotta be a Star Wars person to understand that one though. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: Oh, I'm a nerd to my core. I'm like a really like super goth and like super nerdy. Yeah. People can't necessarily tell from the show, but I'm like super goth and super nerdy and also super magical.

De'Vannon Seráphino: It's like a whole thing I got going on over here. All right. All right. So thank you so much for your time Dr. Gittens. I look forward to editing this down and getting out there so the world can, start reaching out to you to see what can be done. Yeah, 

Dr. Paul Gittens: that's great. Yeah. We can you know, you know, at the end of the day, we want to make sure that we're, you know, helping as many people as we can.

Dr. Paul Gittens: So [00:56:00] it's fantastic. All right. All right. Warm weekend. All right. You too. Thanks so much.

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De'Vannon Seráphino: Find us on any social media platform, stay strong, my people, and just remember that everything is going to be all right. [00:57:00]